Everyday Truths

Tiffany: I would like

Sherri: this to be on the record.

Hugs are weird.

Because you just see a human and
you're like, hello, would you like to

press our bodies together right now?

Like, do you feel like this?

Do you wanna like smell
each other's smells?

Like let's come on, bring it in.

Well, hey y'all, and welcome back
to the Everyday Truths Podcast.

I'm Sherry, and this is a place
where we leave perfection at the

door and just talk real life.

We're in rewind mode again today, and
we're picking back up where Tiffany

and I left off last time, right
in the middle of the unraveling.

If you've ever felt like
obedience meant letting go of

things that once defined you.

This one's for you.

We're talking identity calling and
the hard gift of not being in control.

Let's get into it.

Tiffany: if God is doing something
different, you have to allow him

to do those different things.

Um, and so through all of this
conversation, just I can hear your

passion for what you're doing.

Mm-hmm.

I can hear your love for the Lord.

I can hear your desire to.

Be a bridge for people.

Mm-hmm.

In whatev, whatever that looks like.

Yeah.

Right.

Um, bridge pose.

Just kidding.

That's yoga.

Oh yeah.

Bridge pose.

Cat cow.

Cat cow.

Yeah.

So Karate kid.

Hey, you ought be glad
I didn't call you a cow.

Sherri: I called you a bridge.

Oh my goodness.

So, can I say something really awful?

You may.

Okay.

Because now you guys will understand
me better and know me better.

it's gonna make me sound so terrible.

I don't even even know
why I'm bringing this out.

Uh, but my grandmother,
um, uh, had Alzheimer's.

Mm-hmm.

And, and it was a really difficult
journey she had really bad days.

Mm-hmm.

And, and just the disease
can make you a, um.

A difficult person to be around.

Mm-hmm.

I mean, just really real talk.

Sure.

I mean, like, yeah.

And I mean, I love my grandmother.

They deal with anger.

They, they deal with anger
and all those things.

All sorts of things.

that's the reality of something that's
like, sometimes we're loving people

when they're like, and it's difficult.

It's the absolute hardest.

We can't like pretend.

It's like when we pretend
like, how dare you?

Like, I mean, it's just
like, no, it's difficult.

But what I used to say to her,
because this is her humor too, and

she'd like get like snippy with me.

I'm like, all right, you have a choice.

You can be a miserable
cow or you can stop.

Like, but this is on you.

You get to decide the day we have.

And like, and she would laugh and
like, and so that became like our,

like our like shorthand, right?

Was like, are we being
a miserable cow today?

Or are we, and to be fair,
that's something she would've

said to me 100% percent.

And so like, that became like our joke,
our like second hand, but what is my,

a sweet story, but what is, it's a

Tiffany: sweet story because you,
you had a secret language with her.

Yes.

And only the two of you understood it.

And if somebody on the outside
would've heard you say that,

they would've been like, oh my
gosh, she's so me, her grandma.

Oh, called the social services.

Yeah.

I also put

Sherri: flame stickers on
her cane and she loved it.

You know, and so like, this was
the energy and we each other very,

very much, I miss her very much.

And so she, um, but when you said, I
didn't call you a cow, I'd be like, no.

When I'm bad days, I'm like, all right,
she are we gonna be a miserable cow day?

Or,

Tiffany: but normally
you're a bridge, right?

So you're this bridge.

Sherri: Oh Lord, have

mercy.

Like, it's so far off.

Like, just like, can I edit this episode?

Tiffany: Absolutely not,

absolutely not.

No editing, so, you know, but you
are, you're this bridge, right?

That's, that's what your
desire is, is to, to.

To take people by the hand, right?

Mm-hmm.

And teach them and encourage them,
like you're a huge encourager.

Um, but I am curious you

Sherri: as I call people, as
I call my people cows, my poor

grandmother, a miserable cow.

Like, it's like,

Tiffany: you're such an encourager,

Sherri: you're so encouraging,

Tiffany: you're such
an encourager, Sherry.

Yeah.

Sherri: Well, and at least
you know when I'm encouraging.

I mean it, yes, that's helpful.

Tiffany: Right.

But have you always
wanted to be in ministry?

Like, is that always
something you wanted to do?

Sherri: Okay, so I have always wanted
to make things accessible I always love

taking something that was complicating
complicated and help make it easy.

And I, and I hate it when
people complicate things.

What's funny is I complicate things
all the time, but I hate it when

I'm looking and I'm going like, you
are making this inaccessible, right?

You are making this more
difficult on people.

Like, stop.

Tiffany: It doesn't have to be this way.

Sherri: Like, you know, like you don't
have to teach from your high horse.

Um, she said from her high horse

Tiffany: So that that part of you,

you've always known that

Sherri: that is how God created me was
to simplify as the simpleton that I am.

And so, but then I think on the
ministry side, she said with

humility, yes, self-deprecation.

It's just something to hide behind, right?

And so it's, I know these
things about myself.

It doesn't mean I change them.

Sharing your defense mechanism,

Tiffany: she has great self,
real, she has great self-awareness

Sherri: and absolutely
none all at the same time.

I think somewhere around being a like
teenager and where I think I experienced

a lot of like people complicating
things wasn't in church environments.

And, um, as a teacher, did
you always go to church?

you know, we moved so often, right?

That, you know, it's like, I, I remember
in some places we were really plugged

into churches and then in other places
that we, we weren't, and honestly like

we, I had a really bad church experience,
um, somewhere around the like end of

middle, uh, elementary school, which
was followed up by a great experience.

we were part of a church that
ultimately, like, I mean, I think

if you look him up, it's a cult.

Oh.

Like, it's a, it's a national cult.

And, and so, but it was like a
great, you got plugged into the, into

community and it was beautiful and
it was like you're built in friends,

built in everything, and then when

Tiffany: it's because we

never want you to leave.

Sherri: No.

Yeah.

And, and so then once.

There was like a recognition
on my parents' part,

Because it was all good
things until it wasn't

Tiffany: right.

Sherri: And it was a really great
environment until it wasn't.

And then of course, you know, you leave
that environment, you lose your friends.

Um, unfortunately they tried to use
me to kind of, I, I think I'd have

to ask my folks about this in more
detail, but like, I think they used

me to try to manipulate my folks.

a friend's mom who I believe was
on staff was like, Sherry's really

upset about it and said X, Y, and Z.

And my mom comes to me and she's like.

My gosh, Sherry, I didn't know you
felt this way, like in the best way.

Like, she's like, you're like,
I don't you felt this way.

She's like, you know, it's like
she's checking in on me and

she's like, she's concerned.

And I'm like, I didn't,
you're like, you're like,

Tiffany: I don't feel like that.

I'm fine.

Sherri: I actually
remember the words I said.

It was so funny, but it wasn't funny.

It's, it's interesting that that
stayed in my mind because I don't like,

remember what I ate for breakfast.

But Oh, I do.

We ate quail eggs because it
was like the first time we

actually had like a bunch of 'em.

Tiffany: Did you have enough to make?

Sherri: To make something?

Yeah.

Tiffany: Wow.

Sherri: So Weston,

Tiffany: she

has baby

quail.

I did.

And them not babies anymore.

Sherri: No.

One of 'em laid an enormous egg
yesterday and my daughter's been

obsessed, convinced that we're
gonna have like a double yolk egg.

And I actually sent a picture of it
to like the breeder who had like,

we had gotten it from, and I'm
like, will you look at this thing?

He's like, oh, it's
probably a double yolk.

And I have been telling
my daughter so much.

I'm like, there's not gonna be one.

Stop asking.

Like, it's like she asked so much
that it started getting frustrating.

Tiffany: Yeah,

Sherri: And then he's like, oh,
it's probably a double yolk.

And I'm like, dang it.

And so she said her grandparents,
so I sent her a picture.

She's like, do not open it without me.

So we ate all the eggs, but that one Okay.

Tiffany: But that one.

Okay.

Sherri: But that one so that she
can, I'll show you a picture of it

later compared to the other ones.

You're like, is there a
chicken in there like this?

Tiffany: It's massive.

Yeah.

Sherri: Yeah.

It's like, it's ridiculous.

Anyway, and so I.

Um, remember, so had a
bad experience there.

Mm-hmm.

Had a good experience.

After that, it was like we were
still stationed there, so it was

fourth and fifth grade, the bad
experience In sixth grade, I got

plugged in with a great youth group.

I was very much seen still really fondly,
like remember specifically a youth

volunteer who really liked college.

Uh, a woman who, who, um, really
spoke some great truth into my life.

But anyhow, and so then once
we moved again, uh, to Germany.

Um, like chapels and I got involved
with the youth group on and on.

Sure.

Okay.

So, so my whole point was it
was kind of like consistent.

Tiffany: It was sporadic.

It's like it was in

sporadic, but consistent.

Sherri: It was, yeah, because it's
'cause we moved so much or then,

and then of course if you've ever
tried to find a church and you

have any kind of preferences, you
know how difficult that can be.

It is.

Well, and what, what happens when
you're moving every three years?

Yeah.

And I've, and I've talked to lots
of military families like this,

trying to find a church and things.

Mm-hmm.

I always tried to be, when I worked
for a church, I always tried to

be really open-handed, especially
with military members in, in here

in San Antonio, we have a ton.

And because I just, I think
I remember that as a kid.

Yeah.

It's so's so hard.

It's really hard.

And so they'd be looking for a
church and I'd be like, I'd tell

them about our church, but I'd always
be like hey, but if this isn't the

right place, please come see me.

Because I would love to help
you find the right place.

Yeah.

Because we know the, we know the other
churches, we know the other folks.

Right.

We know what we agree and disagree on.

I'm not gonna be like, don't go there.

We don't like that thing.

Right.

Like, no, you gotta, you're, you're
gonna, you need to find the fit,

you need to find the whatever.

And so, anyhow, in high
school, I like at a camp.

Mm-hmm.

Like so many, you know, it's like,
I felt this like tug to ministry,

ran from that for a long time.

Where'd you run to?

You know, I actually, I was gonna be
a youth, I wanted to do youth ministry

and I, when I kind of got some golf
scholarship stuff too, a Christian school,

uh, Baptist school and I tried knowing
their views on women in ministry, right.

Like, it was always like,
I wanna do youth ministry.

And I would get asked questions like,
so you're gonna marry a youth ministry?

Right.

And I know some other women who
went to the school who really didn't

have the same experience as me.

Um, in, in a lot of ways.

But my experience was trying to
attend classes where I wanted to

learn and being treated like othered.

And I remember like when I decided I
was never gonna do ministry, I, what

happened was I was in a, like a pastoral
ministry class that I had taken for

like the pastoral counseling side of it.

Tiffany: Because you
were studying counseling?

Yes.

Sherri: Um, I was stu I was like ministry.

I was doing ministry stuff.

Just ministry in general.

Yeah.

And I did Oh yeah.

Yeah.

'cause that came later.

Tiffany: Oh, okay.

Gotcha.

Sherri: And so for this reason,
and so I was in this class

and we ran out of content.

I guess we had like, finished everything.

And so it was like the last week
of class and the, the professor

of the class was a, um, was the
pastor of like the largest church

around, like, this was college town.

It had a couple colleges in it.

But it was like the
biggest little town around.

And so like, it was
kind of the center hub.

Sure.

And so this was kind of a, a
really big church for the area.

He was the lead pastor there.

And so he takes us to his church to
baptize his, um, children's minister

all over, over and over again.

Which may sound ridiculous, but if
you've never physically baptized someone,

like there is like a method to it.

Like you actually like
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Physically like baptizing somebody.

Yes.

There's, and he actually showed
us what he did and it's actually

how I've always baptized people.

Yeah, I see what you're saying now.

I was like, baptize them over and over.

Yeah.

So he did that.

And so I happened to go Les last
and he yells over the class.

He goes, enjoy this Sherry, it's the
last time you'll ever get to do it.

And I changed my major the next
day and I just was laughed at

by an entire room of young men.

Tiffany: How humiliating.

Sherri: Oh yeah.

It was, it was terrible.

And I think the worst part
about it, looking back now,

was he didn't believe that.

He said it for the benefit of the room.

Tiffany: Yeah.

He said it to fit in

Sherri: and I knew, and I knew
him and I've seen how he's

dealt with difficult situations.

'cause there was a, a fairly
difficult situation in that, in that

particular church, and I saw how he
dealt with it, um, so beautifully.

Tiffany: Have you ever
talked to him about it?

Sherri: No.

And I don't know that I have
a desire to because Yeah.

Tiffany: And you might not.

I was just curious if
there was ever like actual

reconciliation about

that.

Sherri: No.

Um,

because I would be so focused on
like my own hurt in that and there's

been so much beauty, like I've
gotten to baptize hundreds of people.

Tiffany: Yeah.

Sherri: And there's just like, there is
no purpose for me in focusing on that.

Tiffany: Yeah.

Anyway,

Sherri: it was awful.

Yeah.

And so I changed my
major the next day and,

Tiffany: and that's

when you

changed to psychology?

Sherri: And I changed to psychology.

Okay.

Went to school for psychology,
I went to counseling school.

I made it all the way up to like my
practicum, which is like when you

start like sitting down and like
doing hours and like counseling with

people discovered really quickly.

I hate counseling.

And so I remember just like
crying out to God and um, and just

being like, just being so done.

And I wasn't a crier yet.

I was bawling.

I remember I was driving from, um,
Wayland Baptist, which is where

I was in counseling school, way
across town to our, to our like

first rent house and just bawling
and actually the need to breed song.

Uh, something beautiful came
on and it's right the cue line.

I just want something
beautiful to touch me.

And I just realized, like, I remember
sitting across from people doing

counseling kind of stuff and just being,
thinking to myself like, you need Jesus.

Like you need Jesus.

Mm-hmm.

And in this environment, I
can't necessarily say that.

And it's, I mean, you can be a
Christian counselor, you can do

all the, like, don't get me wrong.

I didn't wanna be a counselor and
realized that like, I'm like, what

am I gonna find a thing I like to do?

Well, I had started like an admin
job at the church that I ended up at.

Like, I didn't wanna be in ministry.

I didn't wanna do anything.

I didn't even wanna take the job,
but I needed a part-time job.

And so I took the job and
that began the journey.

Um, at 13, 18 months later I was
leading the youth program and

then it just went from there.

And so, yeah.

Tiffany: Yeah.

And now here you are.

Sherri: Here I am.

Tiffany: Here you are.

Sherri: Quit.

I quit.

Another thing, man.

What am I gonna do with myself?

Tiffany: Did quit.

Sherri: What am I gonna,

Tiffany: did you quit it though?

Did you quit it or did you move forward?

Sherri: Dude, that was

like the longest story ever.

Right?

Tiffany: Yeah.

It was a

great story though.

I

don't, yeah.

And so it was a great story.

So I definitely know because I think it's

important.

I think it's important for us, but it's
even important for us to know our story.

I think there's so many people who
you can ask, like, tell me your story.

And they literally can't do it.

So it's so important for you to
know, like, this is where God

has been every step of the way.

Yeah.

This is where God has, has shown me,
has corrected my courses, you know?

Correct.

The course.

Closed the doors, like rebirthed me.

Like this is what God has done in my life.

Yeah.

And it's, it's clear that he has been
like leading you to Exactly this moment.

Yeah.

Right.

Because as much as you're
like, I don't like counseling.

But yet we are in one-on-one environment.

You're in one-on-one en and
in one-on-one environment.

Now through your podcast where
you're talking about things where

God was like, okay, not counseling,
but let me do all of these things.

Yeah.

And bring you to this place where you can
talk about God one-on-one with people.

And I

have done a lot of what, what I would
call you would call pastoral counseling.

Mm-hmm.

But that is, I mean, I try
to be as upfront as possible.

It's like, I am here.

I would love to offer spiritual guidance.

I would love to pray with you.

I would, I'm excited to say I
don't know and learn together.

Right.

Yeah.

And, um, but always
going, Hey, next steps.

Like, it's like I saw
myself as like an advocate.

Sure.

Going like, Hey, here's the
directions that you should go.

Being really careful.

I never, never would like meet with people
most of the time, more than once, but

often, never more than like three times.

Unless it was like a ment
a mentee relationship.

Mm-hmm.

It's very different.

And, and so, because I just didn't.

Uh, there are fantastic counselors.

That is not, um, my gifting.

That is not what God has for me.

And I always, I mean, I guess
desire to have the humility just

to say like, oh, I don't have
all the answers, but can I help?

Can I help you find, can I help you
find the person that does, can I help?

Can I connect you with this?

Mm-hmm.

With this local program, with
this, you know, whatever that is.

Yeah.

And so, yeah.

Yeah.

Find the people that like are
really good at like what they do

and then be like, be the bridge to
help people get to those places.

Yeah.

And

so, yeah.

So really, you've kind of always
known that the Lord had something

like God has, oh my gosh.

This,

the question was how did you know
and when, and I I was called at

16 there, I answered the question.

It was, um, it was one sentence.

I was 10,

10,000 years later.

Since three

hours later.

Later, yes.

And so, yeah, I was.

I was like a teenager.

You've kind of always known.

Yeah.

You kind of always known in a lot of ways.

Oh, I was so convinced in the time
that I wasn't, I was so convinced

that it was not the right thing.

I thought I was just another
person who was like, yay.

Youth ministry and did like an
internship and then like went

about About their merry way.

Yeah.

I mean like, 'cause that stories and
like, oh my goodness, like there's so many

folks that you do that and it's fantastic.

And it's like, you know, maybe it's like
lost boy syndrome of like desiring to

like still be in youth ministry mm-hmm.

But not wanting, you know, but not wanting
to like be the mature adult, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um,

and,

but yeah.

But isn't that the way it works?

Right?

Like, I'm not gonna do that.

Mm-hmm.

Like when I, when I, I've had, I've
had my own journey with like my

relationship with church Eight years ago
I stepped out of vocational ministry.

After being in it for 18 years, I,
I will never be in ministry again.

I will never do anything.

I will always pursue something where I
can just pay my bills and, you know, I

always loved the Lord, always loved Jesus,
always, you know, never had that issue.

Mm-hmm.

It wasn't like that type of crisis of
faith for me, but it was like this,

I will never be in ministry again.

Yeah.

And now I find myself, even though
it's not vocationally doing ministry

things like I'm dabbling in it

Yeah.

And

doing great writing work.

You're doing your, you know.

Yes.

But I, I dug my heels in and
was like, I'm not doing that.

Yeah.

Kinda like you, like you dug your heels
and was like, Hmm, I'm not doing that.

I'm done.

And yeah.

And I think even, I think those in
ministry with the right perspective,

have an understanding that at
churches so often it's like you

have paid staff and unpaid staff.

Yeah, yeah.

Like volunteers.

But it's like, there is it, it is the,
there's needs to be a clear understanding

that there is no varsity, but, and it's
like, so is your eternal empower and

equip folks and go, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm not fancier, I'm not whatever.

Mm-hmm.

This just happens to be my job.

I just happen to sit around and
think about this more than you.

Right.

I have more schooling or whatever.

That's the thing.

But it's like there's no varsity.

Right.

And I've said that a million times, but
even stepping out of my role, it felt

like, I'm like, did I just bench myself?

Yeah.

Did I just like, because the active, the
idea of active ministry was so concrete

in my mind as what I had always done.

Right.

And even though I had, I firmly
believe there are people that, the

people that aren't in ministry.

Have a far higher capacity to have
impact than those who are so often

in a very, like, tangible, and I see
the podcast in some ways like this.

Let me equip you so that you can go Yes.

You the shoulder to shoulder as you

Yeah.

And because which interesting, right?

When you say as you go, like, Jesus,
everything Jesus did was as he went.

As you go, as you go, as you go, as
you go and from town to town, that's

why I'm gonna travel for a living.

Go ahead.

But

you're not like, I'm
not in your workplace.

Right.

You're not in, you know, in
your workplace, in your family

and your whatever, and you are
uniquely equipped and placed.

And so like if there's a varsity,
you are the varsity as you go.

Yeah.

Period at the end.

Like stop, like, yeah.

That's it.

Yeah.

If you need a category, if you need
a category, if you need it, yeah.

Yeah.

And, and so, um, but even stepping
out of ministry, understanding that,

saying it over and over again, then
stepping away and being like, that's it.

I, that is the end of my usefulness.

Mm-hmm.

God's like, fine Sherry,
I release you like.

Because you, you keep whining.

Um, and, and I just didn't see anything
beyond, like, hiding behind a computer

and like writing and look at you now
and just, well, just being so focused

on, I know this isn't the right
thing and just being like heartbroken

and like mourning in so many ways.

Mm-hmm.

And it was just such a.

Such a difficult season.

It's, it's, it's the, the
noded entanglements mm-hmm.

That you have to take the time to.

It's like, have you ever
nodded a necklace before?

Mm-hmm.

I, yeah.

I untangle them for my
daughter all the time.

Yes.

And you just, you have to slowly mm-hmm.

Figure out what's on top, what's
below it, what's beneath it.

And when you've worked in vocational
ministry for so long mm-hmm.

And we talked about at the beginning of
this, like your identity and how it can

get, the boundaries get very blurry.

Like this has been a season
of untangling for you.

Mm-hmm.

So that you can get those, those knots out
so that you can understand clearly what's

on this side and what's on this side.

Yeah.

You know?

Mm-hmm.

And but in the midst of that,
you have continued pursuing Yeah.

What God has had for you.

Mm-hmm.

And just said, okay, this
is what's in front of me.

I'm gonna do it.

Yeah.

You know?

And so what that tells me though
is that there's a future here.

So like, what are you, what do
you dream about in the future?

Like what do you see?

Like, 'cause right now I know you're
very much still kind of in this healing.

Like, because there is some
healing that needs to be done,

always healing for ourselves.

Any transition brings,
any transition, brings

healing.

Right?

And so there's healing.

You're untangling, I'm, I'm fine.

Is like the most dangerous
thing you can say.

at least with yourself
and at least with God.

let's sit and let's feel just
for a minute and not like it's.

Just, just sit with it.

Yeah, just, just sit with it and just
like, and you've been doing that a lot.

Well, you know, it's like there's
a fantastic CS Lewis quote that

I think we just all need to like,
have like tattooed somewhere.

And it's, it's like I sat
with my, was it anger?

I sat with my anger long enough
to realize her name was grief.

Yes.

Yeah.

And, and that's the thing.

It's like where, when the, when
you feel the big, big failings,

you gotta sit with them.

Yeah.

And for sure I went through a wave of them
and there's a mourning because anytime

there's a change, good, bad, or other,
there isn't a shift in expectation.

And in so many ways,
we have to mourn that.

Or you'd say, well, no, the shift
in expectations led to good things

and good and unexpected things.

Fantastic.

Then let go of the mourning
you were experiencing before.

Right.

And, and so assess and,
and let that be the thing.

And, and because it's taken me a long
time to begin that process, I'm not

gonna pretend like I'm, I hate it
when we like, are like, I've fixed it.

I'm on the other side.

Like, yeah, you're not no.

Like, like, no, no, no.

But like generally humans, we are not.

Yeah.

You know, and so just let it,
let it be, sit with it so that it

doesn't have to be a forever thing.

Mm-hmm.

And so, yeah.

Where you are right now in life
is you're in such a good place.

Oh yeah.

You're so filled with joy.

Oh, this season is, and just, it's been so

Sherri: sweet.

That's, that's been a major observation
of people, um, who are close to me, is

I have changed so much in this season.

It's like a weight came off
because it's not even like

what I was doing was terrible.

No.

It was just more like, it wasn't
the right thing for me anymore.

Anymore.

And, and so like.

Like, I mean, like go, if you
have friends and you attend

a church, I attend a church.

You attend a church.

Like, it's like, like go find a pastor, a,
a lord, a youth or a children's minister.

Go.

And like, if they're a hugger, hug them.

I'm not, so don't, like, if there's
somebody like me, don't hug them.

But, um, personal boundaries.

Um, but every time I see Sherry,

Tiffany: I'm like, have you hugged me yet?

She's like, oh, yes, I forgot.

I, I had to hug you.

Hugs.

Okay.

Can we just say that's, I
would this to be, I would like

Sherri: this to be on the record.

Hugs are weird.

Because you just see a human and
you're like, hello, would you like to

press our bodies together right now?

Like, do you feel like this?

Do you wanna like smell
each other's smells?

Like let's come on, bring it in.

But there's science behind it too.

It creates good things in your brain.

It does.

It does.

It does.

I don't like good things in my brain.

It really does.

And like when it's people I'm
close to, I'm okay with it.

But also this is Texas and like, yes.

And I'm like, I'm clammy
like you boundaries.

Like I could pick up your, I could
pick up your whole, oh, almost did.

Actually with my clammy hands.

I could pick up your whole notebook.

And so anyway, sorry, tangent, boom.

I'm in a great place.

And those close to me would say, you
have this weight off or it's just all

of this different thing, which somebody
like skeptical listening is gonna be

like, well yeah, you stopped working.

You just like, I mean, I work to be
fair, I work more now than I ever have.

Yeah.

Ever.

Yeah.

It's very different.

Tiffany: It's called entrepreneurship.

Thank, oh, thank my goodness gracious.

Sherri: And did, I've done it for
10 years and it's, but Oh yeah.

But I'll tell you, seven days a week.

And we talked about this yesterday
'cause it was just a realization.

Um,

Mm-hmm.

But it's, I'm not a laugher, like I
love making jokes, I love making other

people laugh, but like, I really don't.

Laugh.

It's more just like
this like side chuckle.

It's like, ha, like,
and so just this thing.

Yeah.

Or she'll go, ha ha ha ha.

Like, it's like, ha ha.

Or I'm more likely to go.

That is so funny.

Yeah.

Because if I think something's
especially funny, I'm just more

likely to like, like sink into it.

Mm-hmm.

Like a warm hug.

Um, like that's my hug, like right there.

And you'll say that.

Tiffany: That's so funny.

That's so funny.

Okay.

Which just so you know that call it what
it is, is just like my mother, so like

if you send my mom a text, that's funny.

She won't send an emoji, she won't LOL it.

She won't do the laughing emoji.

She will literally say, she will
literally say, that's funny.

Yep.

That's funny.

Sherri: Yeah, yeah.

Label it.

Yeah.

And so I just have never, it's been
a long time, like since I like cry,

laughed like, I mean, it's like I
think about myself as like a teenager

doing that, and in the last like month.

I have found myself laughing so much.

I love that.

Laughing.

It's like, the other day I was in the pool
with my daughter and she we're playing

like, we're playing like, keep away.

Like, and, and she's like assigned to
me and Finley's assigned to my husband

and like she grabs a hold of me.

One, she's as strong as
like, like a chimp man.

Like, like, alright.

And, and that's funny if you know
that chimps are like super strong.

Okay.

Yeah.

Anyway, and so, well now you know it.

I told you why it was funny.

She's Explain joke.

Explain the joke.

Explain the joke.

Okay.

So nerd

Tiffany: level 10.

Woo.

So.

She grabs hold of me and she gets
like an inch from my face and is

just like screaming but not loud.

And just as her

Sherri: mouth wide open,
it's just like in my face.

So I can't see.

So instead of in the water like blocking
me, she's just this like I was dying.

I love absolutely dying.

I love her strategy by the way.

And oh, it's excellent and just like,
it's like I can play harder with the kids.

Yeah.

I laugh harder, it had been such a
season of discomfort for me before.

Not just because I wasn't
in the right place.

Right.

I wasn't doing the right thing.

God, it was like, I think God
for a long time had been like,

Sherry, this is the right thing.

I think you can tell from my story, God's
very much worked through discomfort.

Yes.

Throughout my story.

And it took a year to detox from that.

Yeah.

It took, and now you get to be you.

And now it's like, it's like
I laugh and it feels weird.

Yeah.

It feels weird.

I have like an.

Some goofy things with my voice going on.

It hurts to laugh.

Yeah.

It's like it's, but it's like
the best feeling thing in

the world because laughter

Tiffany: comes from here.

Sherri: Oh yeah.

And it's like, it's like
this, it's like, feel it.

Yeah.

I laughed so hard the other day.

It's like, like, like my ribs hurt later.

Like, and it's, and it's like
I've just, it's been so long.

It's something just,
something just clicked.

And so, I don't know.

It's if you're somewhere where you're
like, okay, I'm like, I, I've made the

switch or I'm making the switch, but it
doesn't, whatever that looks like, but

like, why doesn't life look different?

And why don't I feel the relief yet,
maybe, or why doesn't it, whatever.

Like, it's like, Hey, you know
what, sometimes it takes a while,

even if you're not, like, this
was big because mine wasn't like

big, bad, dark, traumatic, right?

Like all of those things, it takes a
season and you gotta let, and, and it's

tiny baby steps all through and, and I
guess we'll get into this in part two,

but it's like, but all these little baby
steps and it's like, do not despise these

small beginnings because they may seem.

They may seem small, they may
seem unimportant, it may not

feel like you're going anywhere.

You may have regret, like whatever
it is in those transitions where

you need that season of mourning,
where you need that season of growth.

Just keep going.

Do not despise these small beginnings
because maybe 11 months later, 12 months

later, you're gonna start to laugh, right?

Yeah, absolutely.

And, and then, and it's gonna,
it's gonna be significant.

And so that's when to look back and I
think to show gratitude, to just recognize

and see how far God's brought you.

And it's just, it's been, it is, it's
been an incredibly beautiful season

with a lot of uncertainty, tears,
and what did I get myself into?

Yeah.

And, um, hanging out with Tiff,
hanging out with Tiff and Yeah.

Uh, and so anyway, so yes, it has been,
it's just a, um, been a wonderful,

been a wonderful season and uh,

Tiffany: yeah, I'm excited
for what's to come.

, Thanks for listening to the Everyday
Truths Podcast, and hanging out while I

told just a little bit of my story, I.

I hope this was helpful to you and
maybe even helped you think of your

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Tiffany: Remember to live, laugh and love

Sherri: kid out.

You're fired.

Miserable cow.